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Chapter 352 of Naruto *SPOILERS*
This post discusses the latest chapter of Naruto, #352.  If you don't want to be spoiled, do not read on.

This is a bit rambling...

So...  The latest chapter of Naruto.  I'm honestly not sure what to make of Sasuke anymore.  I originally started as a Sasuke fan, and I loved Sasuke/Sakura ship, but after Sasuke abandoned his village to seek out power I just couldn't help dislike him.  I don't outright hate him, but he's been such an asshole it's close.  Anyway, my point in posting is to discuss some thoughts on the recent developments with Sasuke, and what might come in the future for the series.

So... indulge me for a moment while I review everything that made me especially dislike him in Shippuden...

Naruto and Team Kakashi go in search of Sasuke and Orochimaru.  At this point in time they still have a legitimate concern that Orochimaru will take Sasuke's body over, and their extremely dangerous enemy will become a thousand times more powerful.  They also want to keep their dear friend and comrade from a fate they consider to be equal to death, similar to a friend stopping another friend from driving home drunk.  And Sasuke meets their concern with nothing but contempt.  He even actively tries to kill them.

Lets start with why Sasuke left in the first place.  The ultimate reason we all know, he wants to kill his bastard brother.  But he could have done that and still remained with Team 7.  Konoha ninja are as capable of killing as anyone else, and his brother being a wanted criminal, it's not like Konoha would hold him back from killing him.  His own team would probably have helped him, given the chance.  But Sai expresses Sasuke's true reason for leaving ~



Naruto changes people.  His love, friendship, optimism, and determination inspire others to be better people, gives them a reason to care again, gives them hope.  Sasuke knows this, his face above depicts a mixture of pain, sadness, loss, regret.  He knows that Naruto will help him remember how to live again, how to hope and love and care.  But Sasuke was scarred deeply by Itachi first, and I don't mean just his family's murder.  Itachi instilled in Sasuke the deep belief that only hatred can bring him enough power, and Sasuke ran rather than stay long enough for his scars to heal.

Naruto has the ability to wash away Sasuke's hatred, heal his broken soul, but he does not wish for it.  No one can change unless they want to.  To steal a quote from the Matrix "No one can see past a choice they don't understand."  Sasuke's choice is this - pursue vengeance, or rebuild his life.  Kakashi attempts to explain to him that vengeance will ultimately gain him nothing, but Sasuke cannot imagine a life without it.  He is so stuck in the past that he cannot understand what his future might hold if he left his vengeance behind.  The easier, safer path for Sasuke is to do what he's always done, seek vengeance.  After all, if he abandons every other thing he might have cared about, he doesn't risk losing it again.  It's a very weak, and ultimately cowardly, thing to do, but it's very human.

So, the first thing he does upon seeing Naruto again after three years - swing his blade to kill him.  Sasuke has given up all hope for the future, and "when you lose hope, you begin to lose everything."  His former teammates represent a threat to the blanket of vengeance-filled obsession he has wrapped around himself, because they are probably the only ones that can draw him out of it.



With all this in mind, something occurred to me when I read chapter 342.  Sasuke has finished putting together his new team, but it still nagged at me how stupid he was for abandoning Naruto and Sakura so long ago.  They've gained amazing power on their own, and they didn't have to betray or hate to do it.  Then it occurred to me, perhaps he wasn't abandoning them, but trying to protect them? 

As I said before, I think Naruto and Sakura would have gone with Sasuke without a second thought, if he'd asked them to help him gain his revenge.  But the consequences of them helping him might have been their deaths.  Sasuke has put together a new team of very deadly ninja, all of whom he has no particular attachment to.  His new team is essentially expendable, he can use them up entirely in his quest for vengeance, and never have to face losing someone precious to him in the process.  By leaving Naruto and Sakura behind, he's protecting himself, but perhaps he's also protecting them.  Maybe he doesn't even understand this is what he's doing, and that's why he fought to kill when they met again at Orochimaru's hideout. 

So to where is all this leading in the future?  My gut instinct, honed by many years of anime watching, says that Sasuke is redeemable, but his redemption will come with his death.  But he hasn't gone so far as to kill innocents, he actively refused to kill the soldiers of Orochimaru, and the inmates of Orochimaru's medical experimentation prison (how innocent they are is debatable, but anyway...) which opens up the possibility of his rebuilding his life. 

These are just me speculating out loud about Sasuke's ultimate end ~

*Sasuke, Naruto, and Sakura fight Itachi, and Sasuke kills Itachi but dies protecting his friends (from anyone involved in the battle, not just Itachi, but Juugo or Suigetsu, or any member of Akatsuki as well)
*Sasuke, Naruto, and Sakura fight and kill Itachi, and Sasuke, revenge accomplished and death avoided, agrees to return to Konoha with them.  I think any scenario involving Sasuke returning to Konoha will involve him giving up being a ninja entirely.  Running off with a known criminal who tried to destroy your village seems to me to be burning a few bridges...
*Naruto and Sakura kill Itachi before Sasuke gets the chance to.  Where that particular thread would go I have NO idea, but it would certainly illustrate all the painful futility of Sasuke's betrayal in search of power.

And that's it I guess, it feels great to get all my thoughts on Sasuke down.  I've been enjoying the latest chapters of Naruto, but I am disappointed/ annoyed with Naruto and Sakura for still wanting to go after Sasuke.  They're reason is still to rescue him, but now he's an adult, and not in danger of giving his body to a dangerous enemy of Konoha.  I guess I just feel like nowadays they need a more compelling reason to go after him than "we want to rescue you from yourself".

I wonder what it is that Karin did to Sasuke so long ago?  Can't wait for the next chapter :D

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From:[info]leilia
Date:April 28th, 2007 03:30 pm (UTC)
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Give me a few minutes to process this so that I can form a coherent reply.

You've summed things up so very well.

I think a lot of people hate Sasuke for his reactions to Naruto and Sakura when he encounters them at Orochimaru's hideout. Yes he tried to kill them, but the big thing is that he didn't and he probably could have if he tried.

I think that you're correct in that Sasuke left Konoha not only to get power but to protect his precious people from his quest for revenge. I think he fully expects to die killing Itachi. I also think that he knew that Team 7 would have backed him up in his quest. And he couldn't risk losing them. Not when he could do something to prevent it.

There is a telling quote from the Valley of the End fight that Sasuke says.

We suffer because of our bonds. How could you possibly know what it is like to lose them?

We know he has formed a bond with the members of Team 7. I think he is afraid of losing those bonds. He also knows that Itachi would likely kill Sakura, Kakashi, or Naruto (he doesn't know about the Kyuubi until after he leaves) just to provoke Sasuke. I don't think he wants to risk them or make them bigger targets than they already are.

I really see that his forming of a new four man team is his way of creating expendable people to aid him in his quest to kill Itachi.

I also see a couple of paralells here with two other series.

1. The obvious Dragonball Connection.

In my mind, I equate Naruto as Goku, Sakura as Bulma, and Sasuke as Vegeta (others use other characters but go with me here). Goku and Vegeta are eternal rivals. Initially they were enemies and then Vegeta grudgingly joined the good guy team and ended up with Bulma. Then, late in the series, he gives himself over to a power that possesses people an uses them (even brands a mark on them) just so that he can get stronger and can stop feeling so soft. He even states that he didn't like losing his focus (which was to kill) and so took the opportunity to switch sides to gain power to go back to his original goal. Vegeta does come back to the good side, however to do so he dies protecting those people he formed a bond with. (He gets better though) We know that Kishimoto has acknowledged that Dragonball is one of the inspirations for Naruto - this character parallel is just too similar.

2. The Star Wars parallels.

I also see Sasuke as being very similar to Anakin Skywalker. He sought out the dark side in revenge (the death of his mother Shmi by the sand people) and then embraced it to protect his loved on (Padme). Sasuke can be argued is following a similar path. And if he does go this route, then he is likely to die in the end as we see in Return of the Jedi.

I think that Naruto and Sakura still want to go after him because of a few things. I think that Sakura still harbors a crush on Sasuke and she can't give him up not while she could potentially save him. I also think that Sakura's not stupid. She's likely seen the parallels between Tsunade, Orochimaru, and Jiraiya and herself, Sasuke and Naruto. She's seen what Orochimaru's defection has done to Tsunade and Jiraiya first hand. I also think that she wants to save herself the hurt of knowing that her teammate is out there causing trouble and she didn't do anything to stop it. I think that more than Naruto, Sakura could potentially bring herself to kill Sasuke for the better good. At least now.

Naruto wants to save him because he is unwilling to lose any of his precious people. Even when they don't want to be saved. It isn't just his promise to Sakura (she released him from that) it is that he promised himself that he would protect all of the people he cared for from getting hurt. Sasuke falls into that boat. And Naruto can't protect him if Sasuke is out running around everywhere without him. I can't see Naruto intentionally killing Sasuke, unintentionally yes.

It is going to be interesting to see where he is going to end up.

And if this made no sense it's because your analytical skills have knocked all of the coherence out of my head.

From:(Anonymous)
Date:April 30th, 2007 10:38 am (UTC)

Very WIse

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The only thing I have to argue about is that Sasuke does not expect to die...reasons
1. He's an arrogant jerk
2.His second ambition he talks of...
In one of the earlier ones, when Kakashi asks them about hopes and dreams he says he has two ambitions, to kill someone (Itachi) and to "restore his clan"

Sasuke, after completing his first ambition, will be the only Uchiha left, therefore he must have kids.

With who i leave you to ponder, but thats all I have to say. Other than that I think your exactly right.
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From:[info]archchic
Date:May 5th, 2007 06:31 am (UTC)

Re: Very WIse

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You've got a point with #1 I admit, he is -such- an arrogant jerk, he could never imagine anyone having the audacity to be better than -him-. *barf*

I disagree with point #2 though, I think the second set of manga pics shows that Sasuke's abandoned his previous goal of clan restoration. Maybe, if his arrogant ass can actually succeed in avoiding death on his vengeance mission, he'll return to "restoring his clan"... he certainly won't have anything better to do with his life. But at the present moment he's given up on every other thing not related to his gaining vengeance... like hope, love, vengeance, friendship...

Ugh, when I think about him as if he left Naruto and Sakura behind to keep them safe, I can almost like him. But when I think of how utterly arrogant he is, that he was going to try and kill his former friends, that he gave up on -life- to find power... I just want to hate him.
From:(Anonymous)
Date:May 5th, 2007 01:08 pm (UTC)

Re: Very WIse

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I can't help but laugh, you hate him sooo much!XD
i reread the second one and i guess your right. i used to think he was awesome but Gaara is sooo much better(pulls out Gaara photo and drools)

I'm so mad right now! I'm in a play(Grease) and last night was the opening. every one expected it to suck(because a lot of things set us back so we only had technically 7 weeks of practice) durring the one scene I was in, everyone started doing the wrong moves! and I got yelled at for it! then people said they heard I was kicked out, i don't know if I am or not but it wasn't my fault!
Why am I telling you this? Well the whole time all this was going on I couldn't stop thinking "can't wait till I get home, maybe 'marriage of convenience' has updated"

I'm not upset that it's not (take all the time in the world I don't want to rush you) but the thought that it might gave me hope(tear falls down cheek) lol
I really want to write a fic but if it was any good my fans would kill me cause i never have any time to write(which is why most of my comments are left at insane hours of the day)

good luck or break a leg!
MC

ps- I hate to sound stupid(oops to late for that)but does a live journal account cost money, cause i want one and I know nothing of computers.
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